Here are some comments we have received about this web site!
Please share with all the Raiders who were here in Dallas what an honor it was for me and all the other escorts to be with you for these few days. I have Ed Horton's contact info so I'll be sending him a personal letter since I escorted him. Please share my info with anyone else who may want it. So sorry that Mr. Casey had to leave early; prayers for your full and speedy recovery.
Thank you so much for letting us share in the Reunion with all of the Raiders and Families. This was an Honor and Privilege to Escort these Fine American Aviators. I will always remember this past week for all eternity. We can not stop thinking about the events of last week. A life’s Dream has been fulfilled. Please stay in touch and let Amanda and me know how all of you are doing. We plan to be at the next Reunion in South Carolina. Take Care and May God Bless…
Ben and Amanda Combs
Escorts for the Doolittle Tokyo Raiders’ 66th Anniversary Reunion / 15-20 April 2008.
Really enjoyed your site this a.m. My dad was career Air Force and he and Sgt. (later Col.) Manske, gunner on Ship #5, served together at Chanute Field, Illinois in '39, and then again at the Pentagon in the late 60s. Mankse's son Mark was in my high school graduating class and lived in the same dorm as I did at the Univ. of Texas, in 1972-73. Mark Manske became an architect, I believe. Have lost contact with him since the dorm days. Read "30 Seconds Over Tokyo" at age 10 and built a plastic model of the Ruptured Duck afterwards. That book had a tremendous effect on me at that age, probably more so since I was an Air Force brat, and I'm really not over it yet 46 years later! <grin>. My dad also knew Mankse's pilot Lt. (later Gen.) Davy Jones, who as you probably know became Air Force chief of staff later in his career.
I learned a great deal about the Doolittle Raid today from your site reading the after action reports. Had never seen them before and I was completely fascinated. Reading Doolittle's report, I wanted to know more about the crew who bombed from 2500 feet. (!) Clicked on the after action report and it was Lt. Joyce. Very impressed with his matter-of-fact approach to the mission report. I began working on my pilot's license several years ago and have been steadily chipping away towards it as time, money, and circumstances permit. Therefore the technical aspects of flying in his report were of great interest to me.
Anybody who could drop bombs from a B-25 at 2500 feet and then shake off nine Zeroes has my complete and total admiration. Yee-haw! After reading Lt. Joyce's report, I learned the whole site was put up by his son, you.
Great, great job! You really have done the memory of your father proud.
God bless you and the Doolittle Raiders, here and beyond.
My name is Albert Olsson and I am working on a film project for the Pacific Aviation Museum at Pearl Harbor, Hawaii.
http://www.pacificaviationmuseum.org/ We are making a short documentary for the museum that will serve as a opening film before entering the main exhibits. The purpose of the film is to give an introduction of the history and the veterans of the exhibits. One of the exhibits is the Doolittle Raid and we did an interview with Lt. Col. Dick Cole on December 5th. The reason im writing to you is that we would like to use photographs from the Doolittle Raid in the film and I saw a number of photographs on your website. I was wondering if you would let us use the photographs you have in our film.
I am a 6th grade, home-schooler. My mom is making me do a research paper on an event in American history and I love to study the wars, especially WWII and the events around Pearl Harbor. I am fascianated with planes and technology of war. My great grandfather was in the Navy in 1942, but I have only 1 photo of him from that time.
I found your site on the enternet and wanted to use some of your information from your dad's story of the raid on Japan if that would be okay. My mom says I need to get your permission first. Thank you for the helpful first hand information that you have provided for me to learn more about this important event.
Please let us know if it would be okay to use some of the data that you've provided.
I saw your site mentioned in the paper today in the article about the recent death of one of the raiders. I am the former priest of Herb Macia and wondered if he were still alive. I'd lost track of him when he moved to be with his son years ago.
Do you have an address where I might contact his son. I believe that Herb was diagnosed with Alzheimers before he left San Antonio, so probably would not remember or recognize me, but I'd like to let his son know that he is remembered.
The Rev. Doug Earle
San Antonio, TX
For several years I have been writing about a heritage of a dad who migrated from Virginia in 1925 to work in a South Carolina cotton mill and lied about his age to serve two years in the Army.
At the age of eighteen I left home, hitchhiked eighteen miles to the county seat, enlisted in the Air Force, and retired in 1973.
In addition to my ancestral heritage, thank you for reminding me of my Air Force heritage of men such as the Doolittle Raiders.
Boiling Springs, SC
I visited the Doolittle Raiders website by clicking on a link from the story announcing the recent passing of a raider, Nolan Herndon. I had read the book "30 seconds over Tokyo" back when I was in High School back in 1976 or 1977. It is a great book.
I just wanted to say thanks for making and maintaining the website. It was a joy to spend a few minutes reading about the mission again. Those guys wrote the book on bravery and courage for many, many others to follow during WWII.
First let me say that I stumbled onto your website by accident while doing some research, and I am extremely impressed! Well done! Very informative! I am curious. On the page "80 Brave Men" where all the crews are listed along with their pictures, you have the picture of crew #15, piloted by Lt. Donald G. Smith. May I ask where you obtained that photo? One of our members (the granddaughter of Dr. White that flew on Raid) is wanting a copy of that photo and is willing to pay to get a copy. I have tried contacting the National Archives, but I haven't heard anything yet. If you could give any suggestions, or if I could have your permission to make a scan of that photo from your website, I would appreciate it. Thank you for your time and consideration.
American Airpower Heritage Museum
I was a boy between the age of 5 and 9 during World War II. The men and women of that era were and still remain my heroes. Those 80 men on the Doolittle Raid are as far as I am concerned a personification of the term hero. I have an immense respect for all of them. I would consider it an honor if you would pass this E mail to the surviving crew members and their families. God bless them all. For their actions this young boy was able to grow up in the greatest country in the world. I would love to see the movie 'THIRTY SECONDS OVER TOKYO' remade.
Todd – great site! Congratulations! I’m writing because I attended a program on the Raid this morning in my community, near Hilton Head in South Carolina. The program was given by a man who is (or was) on the faculty of the Air Force Academy and has studied the raid for several years. I have read every book I can find on the subject and he mentioned something I’ve never heard of. He said that the captured raiders were castrated by the Japanese in a big public “event” in Tokyo; he said it happened atop a 50 foot tower and was witnessed by 200,000 screaming Japanese. I have never heard of anything like this and I believe he’s wrong, although he said he had done research, personally, on the matter. I think his story is a crock and I’m hoping you can give me the definitive word, one way or another. It’s one thing to get history wrong, and quite another to teach it wrong. Looking forward to your reply! Harvey Trabb, Bluffton, S.C.
Reply by C.V. Glines about this:
That tale leads the list of the most preposterous stories about the Raiders I've ever heard. Whoever that "expert" on the Raid is certainly should have not graduated from the AF Academy. He obviously didn't read Four Came Home.
My name is Seamus Bunting. My mother is visiting. She is a Nurses Aide in Rehobeth Beach Del. She was telling me about a man she takes care of was one of Doolittle's Raiders. Considering most of the people she takes care of have Dementia or Alzheimer's I was skeptical. So after reading your web site I realized she was telling the truth. In case your interested or was not aware, James Macia is alive and doing good and very well loved by the Nurses Aides and Nurses at Brandywine Senior Care Center in Rehobeth.
My mom, Margaret Bunting, and I would like to thank all those who flew on that apparent suicide mission. They are real heroes.
I live in Doolittle, Texas. At the present time, it is not a town, but a census "place", just outside of the city of Edinburg, Texas, which is located in the southern most part of Texas, about forty miles north of the Rio Grande River. I am reading all the internet information and now know the historical facts. I have been driving down Doolittle Road since 1978. After a freeze destroyed many of the orchards, a lot of people sold the orange groves and many "new" faces moved to this area. Your webpage is very enlightening and do wish you every success, this historical information, is of great value to our future generations. Thank you....Kathleen Magurean
I have nothing to add to the website, however I just wanted to thank you for providing this information and ask a question. Although I am a woman and was born in 1944, I am very interested in all the details of the war. I saw the special on the Jimmy Doolittle mission on the History Channel and then found your site to read more. I had seen the movie some years ago with Alex Baldwin and after living in China teaching for 5 years, I felt again how strange it must have been for the brave fliers to have no idea about what would face them if they did make it to China to land. And then to add the fact that they had to take off from the ship prior to the planned time; and then to land in the dark in China, providing that they actually could make it to the land with the limited gas, it was amazing the spirit that kept them from panic.
I wonder if it is true, if you know, the part in the movie about Jimmy Doolittle teaching them the phrase in Chinese "I am an American"? In the History Channel documentary, it shows that Jimmy Doolittle drew a picture of the parachutes coming from planes and connected with some of the men this way, through the Chinese. Also, I wonder if the place the prison some of the men who were captured were taken to is the present Nanjing, which was NanKIng at that time? That was the former capital of the Chiang Kai-shek presidency, which was taken by the Japanese in 1937, the Nanjing Massacre. I lived in this area.
Thank you again for the information. I feel also that there will never be the total American spirit as it was then. It was a different time, with total participation. I have studied, read and taught this time with enthusiasm. There are many many stories that are heroic from this time. Thank you for making it a recorded historic document for others to see. I will use your site if I ever teach this time again, as I have used "authentic" documents in prior times. It is a valuable tool.
I am the son of a World War II Army Air Forces veteran of the pacific theater. A few years ago, I managed to get my father to let me help him write his memoirs.
During our work sessions, I became convinced that he had come into possession of an artifact that may have belonged to one of Doolittle's pilots, specifically Ted Lawson, the pilot of the seventh plane to take off from the deck of the carrier Hornet. The artifact is a Spanish made .25 automatic pistol taken from a Japanese officer on New Guinea in 1944. The first attachment is a letter explaining how Dad came to have the weapon, and why I believe it MIGHT have belonged to Lawson, and some of the steps I've taken to investigate it's origin. The other attachments are photos of the weapon. All the evidence that I have that it may have belonged to Lawson is strictly circumstantial, but I'm still working on it. I may never be able to either prove or disprove my theory, but it's been a fascinating project to work on. I thought you might find the story and the photos interesting.
As I told you, I am the son of a World War II veteran of the U.S. Army Air Forces. My Dad served in the Pacific Theater as a crew chief on a C-47 in the 40th Troop Carrier Squadron. He was not on the Doolittle Raid. As a matter of fact, he was in his last semester of high school when the Raid took place. I do believe, however, that he may have a distant relationship to the Doolittle Raid because of an artifact which came into his possession on the island of New Guinea in October, 1944. Please bear with me, and I think you'll find the story interesting.
Currently, we're losing our World War II veterans at the rate of about 1500 a day. At that rate, they'll all soon be gone. Personally, I think it's a tragedy for any one of the men and women who participated in this most momentous event of the 20th century to pass away without telling their story.
Each one of them has a story, and for easy one who passes away without leaving a record of what they witnessed and did is a precious piece of history that's lost forever. To that end, I have persuaded my
83 year old father to let me help him reduce his thoughts and memories to paper for preservation and the benefit of future generations. We started about five years ago. We would sit down at his kitchen table with a tape recorder between us, and we'd talk.
I guided the conversation to get the information I thought most relevant to our project. It wasn't an easy thing to accomplish. My mother is an Alzheimer's patient, and Dad was constantly having to get up and deal with something concerning her condition. Even after he finally was forced to put her in a nursing home in November, 2005, he spends most of his time there with her. It's more difficult than ever to work on the project. It's definitely a challenge.
Something came up during our work sessions that caught my attention and fired my imagination. Here's how it went. Dad was originally trained to be part of the flight crew of a Waco glider. They were training to take part in the only glider landing scheduled for the Pacific Theater, in October 1944 for the Southern tip of Luzon during MacArthur's return to the Philippines. Finally, some genius figured out that this part of the operation would result in 100 percent casualties, and the glider landing was scrubbed. When the crews arrived on New Guinea by troopship, the gliders remained in their crates and the crews were split into two groups. One group was assigned to the 39th Troop Carrier Squadron and the other to the 40th.
Dad ended up with the group assigned to the 40th Troop Carrier Squadron. After these assignments were made, each group was split again. Half were assigned as ground crew and half as air crew. Dad ended up as a member of the air crew group, assigned as a crew chief on a C-47. It was during all this splitting, assigning, splitting again and re-assigning that Dad got his first detail, shortly after arriving in New Guinea. He was assigned to guard a group of Japanese prisoners, while Army MP's shook them down for weapons and intelligence. The prisoners, 12 or 15 of them, were lined up abreast, hands behind their heads. Dad said they made a rookie mistake. (After all, he was a rookie). They didn't make the prisoners take their headgear off. Dad covered the prisoners with a .45 while the MP's searched them. The prisoner on the far left end of the line was an officer wearing a soft cap. Out of the corner of his eye, Dad saw the man's hand slip up under his cap and come out with a small pistol. Dad popped him! He said it happened in a split second. Since Dad was the one who shot him, he got to keep the pistol. After all, the officer had no further use for it. It was a Spanish made .25 automatic. It was badly rusted and had, obviously, not been well cared for. Dad said there was also a leather shoulder holster, but it was so rotted and mildewed that it wasn't worth taking. The pistol still functioned perfectly, so he cleaned the rust off, oiled it up, and carried it with him in his pocket through the rest of the Pacific War, and the subsequent occupation of Japan. He returned home and was separated from active duty in January of 1946. I had seen this pistol many times and knew of it's presence in our home all my life.
As a student of history, with a special interest in the Civil War and World War II, I've found that during my reading, certain books would really capture my interest. One such book was Ted Lawson's "Thirty Seconds over Tokyo" published in 1943 by Random House.
I devoured that book. I read it, then I re-read it, then re-re-read it several times over, and was finally studying it like a text book. During all this, I noticed something, and it began to bother me. The first mention Lawson makes of it is on page 74. After the Raid, the "Ruptured Duck" was about to attempt it's wheels down landing on a beach somewhere along the North China coast. Lawson writes, "McClure placed our .45's and their holsters behind our seats. The
.25 Ellen had given me was in my shoulder holster, under my shirt." He next mentions it on page 83. The crew had been rescued, after their crash, by Chinese peasants and taken to what sounds like a pretty filthy little hut. Lawson was dazed and badly injured. He writes, "I looked through my torn clothes to see what was left. My shoulder holster with Ellen's gun had stayed on me". Then on page 84. "I handed Ellen's gun to Thatcher and told him to hide it."
Lawson's crew was befriended by Chinese guerrillas, led by a man known only as "Charlie", and spirited across China just ahead of the pursuing Japanese. At one point the injured crew was given bowls of hot water to drink. On page 99, Lawson writes, "When we finished with the hot water, Charlie reached over and started to take the .45 or Ellen's
.25 out of the two holsters Thatcher wore. Thatcher was very proud of his .45 and I had asked him to take good care of Ellen's .25. So he wrenched away from Charlie, while a sudden murmur of disapproval buzzed up from the guerrillas." The last mention he makes of "Ellen's .25" is on page 151. The crew had been taken to Kian, China, where they were hoping to get a plane for Chun King. There was no plane at Kian and the AVG (American Volunteer Group-Flying Tigers) had already left, but there was an AVG radio man and an AVG hostel where the crew was to stay until they moved on to Heng-Yang. This meant American food and hot showers.
Also, there was a Chinese named Koo S-Ken who was an interpreter for the AVG. He and Lawson talked and became friends. Laswon wrote, "I gave him Ellen's gun that night. It was rusty by now, but he seemed to appreciate it very much".
When Lawson and his crew moved on the next day, the AVG radio man and his interpreter stayed behind in Kian. This is where the speculation begins. The AVG radio man remains un-named, and I've been unable to learn anything about the fate of Koo S-Ken. With the Japanese actively searching for the downed Raiders, and torturing and murdering anyone who had anything to do with helping them escape, it seems probable that Koo S-Ken, at some point, fell into their hands. It seems equally probable that he did not survive. If that was the case, "Ellen's gun" fell into the hands of the Japanese as well. A Japanese enlisted man would not have been allowed to keep such a souvenir, but an officer would. Would it be such a leap of faith for a Japanese officer stationed in China in June, 1942 to end up stationed on New Guinea in October, 1944? I asked Dad if he had ever seen anyone else, in his entire time in the Pacific, carrying a pocket pistol in a shoulder holster. He said, "No, that was the only time".
I've been investigating this little mystery for about five years now, and I've run into many dead ends. The circumstantial evidence leads me to believe that this may very well be the same gun that Lawson carried on the Raid. My intention now, is to either prove or dis-prove my theory. I wanted to be able to tell Ted Lawson the story and lay the gun in his hands and ask him if this is the gun he carried. However, since he passed away in 1992, that's not possible.
The next best thing is to show it to the only surviving member of his crew, who had Lawson's gun in his posession for several days while they were in China. David Thatcher. I'm sure Mr. Thatcher is in his mid-80's now, and I don't know what his mental or physical state might be. I didn't even know if he was still living until I found your web site. I could write an entire book on what I've done and found investigating this mystery. It's been interesting, fun, and at times, frustrating. I've learned not to fear dead ends or winding up back at square one. I've been there many times. I covet any suggestions you might be able to make.
I received the very interesting mail you received from Martin Patterson which I have forwarded to Dave Thatcher and will send Martin an e-mail soon.
I would not be able to identify the gun and do not want it. Glad to learn he has been taping his Dad's War Memories. The Library of Congress has a project collecting oral interviews. Mine about Ted is being prepared by a friend, George Nolta. When Ted went on the Raid he left me his 22 Colt Woodsman and took the small 25 handgun he had given me . I had it with me during the many cross-country trips I made in our 39 Buick. The gun was small enough to fit in my purse. The last time I had it with me when I checked into a hotel in Montgomery Al, on the way to Eglin Field. in 1942.
There is a possibility Martin's Dad could have my gun, but no way to prove it.
Dear Martin Patterson,
Todd Joyce e-mailed me your interesting account of your .25 gun your Dad acquired during WWII when he was in New Guinea in
October 1944. when he was assigned to the 40th Troop Carrier Squadron. When my husband, Ted Lawson left for his trip to McClelland Field
in March 1942, from Florida he asked me to give him the small .25 gun he had given me and in exchange he left me his 22 Colt Woodsman he had owned for a long time. We used to take it out on the desert for target practice a lot before we were married. I still have the 22 Pistol which Ted was happy to still have it on his return home. This small gun fit easily in my purse and I kept it with me in the Cross country Trips in our 39 Buick. I would like to see a picture of it but have no desire to have it returned to me even if it is "Ellen's Gun". I never had it in a holster but Ted did keep it in a shoulder holster and it was on him when he washed up on the beach in China on April 18,1942.
I forwarded your e-mail to Dave Thatcher and phoned his home yesterday. His wife Dawn told me Dave has no memory of it at all so there is no need to contact him. Checking in Bob Considine's notes Ted gave the .25 to a radio man he met before he left China for India. The Japs were very close and may have easily made contact with this AVG group.
You have a very interesting story and Sorry I can not identify the gun or help you with it. Thanks for telling me about your research. Glad to hear you are taping your Dad's Story. It is very important to record these for history.
Ellen Lawson (Mrs. Ted William Lawson)
I have no special connection to any of the Raiders, but wanted to let you know how great it is to have a website like yours to keep this important history alive and accessible. I feel its very helpful to keep things in context, and remember what these "real men" did for us all.
My father was in the USN during WWII. He was one of the 10,000 USN personnel involved with the Task Force that launched plane. He was on the Hornet when Doolittle’s Raiders took off. He saw the USN sailor lose his arm while helping to position one of the planes (Plane 16, the final B-25). After the raid, my dad was on the Hornet when it was sunk. He survived the 3-4 hours in the water while waiting rescue. He passed away from lung and brain cancer in August of 1998. Truly a great generation of Americans!
Thank you for your informative website. I stumbled across it and was encouraged by the sacrifice made by so many to buy our freedom. May God bless our troops engaged in the present war.
I am so grateful to you for your website. I'm glad to know that some people still are into preserving this wonderful part of history.
I am the grand-daughter of Eldred Scott, the flight engineer gunner on the 9th plane. I'm very proud of our families. Thank you for helping preserve the legacy of the Doolittle Raiders.
A question on a trivia matter re the Doolittle Raid.
I am a retired forestry professor drafting some personal essays and I am expanding on an experience when my father came home (from his work site in New York City) with some items, one of which was represented as a facsimile of a paper "flyer" which had been intended to be dropped over Tokyo during the raid.
It was a paper leaf, shaped like a maple, with Japanese characters on it. The story that went with it was that it represented a leaf from a tree that grew in Japan that, according to some superstition among the Japanese, would bring bad luck if they (the leaves) fell prematurely. There definitely was such a leaf in my possession back during the war years; unfortunately, somewhere along the way since then it has been lost. It definitely was given to me around 1942 and well before any of the B-29 Tokyo missions.
I have never noticed any reference to such a flyer and, since discovering your web site, wonder if you have any knowledge of such an item. The only reason I give this story any credence is that my father's older brother ("as the story goes") was in flight school with Gen. Doolittle in Texas and they had maintained some communication and that same uncle was in NYC at the same time.
My non-professional reading is strongly oriented focused on World War II. This current line of thinking was triggered by my reading of the obituary article about Navigator Chase Nielsen in the Bangor (Maine) Daily News 2 April 2007.
I was in grade school in Plainfield, NJ in 1942 and have vivid memories of the excitement when we heard about the Doolittle Raid. It was like everyone in school had a birthday on the same day.
Any response that you have time to transmit will be sincerely appreciated.
After laboring through book accounts of the Doolittle Raid, your web site is most interesting and invaluable. Thank you.
Best wishes to you,
My name is LT Jennifer Cragg and I work at the Naval Media Center in Washington, D.C. The Naval Media Center is in the process of establishing a Web site to pay tribute to the veterans of World War II as it relates to the Battle of Midway. In order to do so, we are covering the major events leading up to the battle. One of these events along that timeline is the Doolittle Raid. While researching this leg of the project, one of the assistants came across your site. I believe there are a number of great resources that we would like to use.
Therefore, I am seeking written permission to use the Doolittle Tokyo Raiders photographs, audio & video clips, and reports and interviews as listed on your Web site:
If granted permission, these images, photographs, and reports & interviews would be posted on www.navy.mil
If you have any further questions or concerns, please contact me by calling (202) 433-XXXX.
Looking forward to hearing from you soon.
LT Jennifer Cragg
Naval Media Center
My Father was one of the extra crews and his plane did not go on the raid. He himself was on the Hornet and has many memories of the Training as well as the event up to and after the launch. I’m wondering if he could attend the next reunion. His Names is Jim Hattan. His health is fading and this will probably be his last year to attend. If you get my drift. He’ll be 90 this year.
Jim Hattan (son)
For years, I heard the stories from my father and grandfather regarding the role of McQuay, Inc. in the refitting of the B-25's which participated in the Tokyo Raid. You see, my grandfather was Roy Jay Resch and he was the president of McQuay at the time. My father also shared stories of meeting then Colonel Doolittle and the temporary basing of the planes at Holman field in St. Paul.
I have technical drawings of the fuel tanks and bomb shackles and one of the shackle extensions.
But I never did any research on the stories until today.
Following a presentation on the History Channel tonight, I found your website and was pleased to find Colonel Doolittle's memo to Hap Arnold with its reference to McQuay.
Is a photocopy of the memo available? I would love to add it to my family's historical records.
Thank you for your time.
R. Jay Resch
I just found your web site while looking for information on Ted Lawson and the other raiders, As a young boy over 53 years ago I first read "30 Seconds Over Tokyo" and the exploits of your Dad and the other raiders were an inspiration to me. I have no idea why I did not find this earlier but my most sincere thanks for your work and dedication in building the site. With your permission I would like to save the photos to my Computer but only for my own use.
Thank you again for this obvious labor of love and the wonderful history it keeps alive.
Jeffrey C Hahn
Hello Mr. Joyce,
My name is Jeffrey D. Miller. A few years back my aunt passed away and going through her stuff we found a stack of old newspapers. They are all Dayton Ohio and range from Dec. 8th 1941 Pearl Harbor, Sept. 8th Surrender of Italy, One about Leyte, A couple from June 6th, A couple about VE Day and August 14th 1945 VJ Day (which has an interesting little artical about the USS Indianapolis). But my personal favorite was the Saturday April 18th 1942 newspaper "U.S. Planes Bombed Japan, Tokyo Says". So living here in Dayton I went to the 64th Doolittle Raiders Reunion last year at Wright Patterson Air Force Museum in Dayton Ohio. I took the paper with me and had Bower, Griffin, Cole, Nielsen, Thatcher, Horton, Kappeler, and Hite sign it along with Liu, John Doolittle, and Glines. I have attached a few photos of some of them signing it. I think out of all the things they signed those few days this might have been one of the very few if not the only original newspaper from Dayton Ohio about the raid they signed because I noticed they took a few seconds each and kind of glanced over it reading some of it. Even one of the higher up Air Force personnel who was standing behind Kappeler and Hite commented on the paper. In the future I plan on donating the newspaper and photos I took to the museum. hanks a bunch and let me know if you get these pictures and I also really enjoy using your web site!
Jeffrey D. Miller
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I am history teacher at Oak Mountain Middle School in Birmingham, Alabama. I was in the stages of putting together a PowerPoint Presentation on the Doolittle Raid for a 6th Grade History class when I ran across your website. I would like your permission to use some of the images you have as part of my presentation. My presentation is strictly for educational use in my school and school district for our students and will not be for any monetary or publication purposes.
Please let me know if this is acceptable to you.
John E. Croom
Oak Mountain Middle School
Dear Mr. Joyce:
Your site is an excellent tribute to the men of the raid. I have no connection to anyone involved but feel that the memory of the raid and our heroes of WW2 must be kept alive.
Our freedom is not free as the sacred ground of Arlington and the other cemeteries bear witness.
I don't know if I will ever meet one of the remaining raiders but if you see any of them give them my Thanks and Regards.
Thanks for the great site
Cliff W West
Great site, one I'm just beginning to explore.
In late '05, Jonna Doolittle Hoppes visited a local radio station in Denver, CO -- 850 KOA am -- and while I didn't have the pleasure of meeting her, I did listen as she spoke of the book she'd written as a tribute to both her grandfather and grandmother. After getting and reading the book, I followed up with two more about General Doolittle and the famous Doolittle Raiders attack on Japan, both by Carroll Glines.
After which, I had the pleasure of a brief but heartfelt email exchange with Mrs Hoppes, thanking her for sharing with us the personal side of her grandparents.
Not a military veteran myself (the last member of my family to be so was my late father, as a mortar gunner in the USMC in Korea, 1951), but I thoroughly enjoy reading military history, both marvelling at the feats these men accomplished under such harrowing circumstances, and having a level of respect and awe of men like these.
Thank you for this site. Thank you for your service. And belatedly, thank you for your father's service and that of his comrades. If it is remotely possible for you to pass along this note to the remaining Raiders, it would be an honor for me to convey my thanks to them all.
The day the last Raider joins his comrades at parade-rest in Shangri-la, that day will be both a moment of reverent silence, mourning, and the end of a truly unique era in our nation's history. But thanks to books from Mrs. Hoppes, Mr. Glines, and websites like yours, the passing of the Raiders won't mean the passing of their memories from our national consciousness.
Certainly not from mine; I'll remember them every April 18 I have left.
With respect and thanks to you, the remaining Raiders and all of our veterans,
Found your site today while doing some research for the folks on my forum. I am sitting here watching 30 Seconds Over Tokyo, and wanted to let my forum members know what I was viewing this Veteran's Day. So I began writing about movie and the book of the same name. I then wanted to give them more info on Doolittle's Raiders, so began hunting for some great links on the web. That is when I ran across your website and stopped searching.
Great site, nice layout! I placed your link on the forum and also on our main site. You can find your link here under the WWII Aviation section of that page.
It will take me some time to go through your site, but so far I am very impressed. One thing that caught my eye was your Children of the Raiders page. That is very cool. It really appealed to me because I (we) are trying to do something very similar for the 6th Corps Combat Engineers. I am the proud daughter of a 540th Combat Engineer, and I too created a website for my father and his fellow engineers. I am also in the middle of writing a comprehensive history of the 6th Corps Engineers. A really fascinating journey for me.
WWII Magazine published my article in their September issue and Army Engineer Magazine is going to publish one, complete with photos and maps later this month. It is such a thrill and honor for me to see "my boys" in a magazine. The guys have waited 60 years to have their story told. I only wish I could have done it earlier so more of them were around to see their names in light!
I look forward to hearing from you. I am so glad that you are also able to pay tribute to your father and the amazing men he served with.
God bless all of them this Veterans Day and always,
Marion J Chard
Proud daughter of Walter (Monday) Poniedzialek
540th Combat Engineer WWII
Mr. Todd Joyce,
I am Jim Hyatt, owner / founder of the Yokohama American / Nile C. Kinnick High School [YO-HI] Alumni web site at http://yohidevils.net/ My website is the 'hometown' for 6000 military 'brats' type alumni [children of U. S. Military personnel] who attended the YO-HI school system which began in 1946 in Yokohama, Japan, and continues today at it's new location in Yokosuka, Japan. One of the purposes of the 10 year old website is to document the 'history' of the school. I am a 1948 graduate of that school -- the first class after it came into being.
A few days ago, an alumni informed me that a photo [# Original_15.jpg] on your Doolittle Raider website --http://www.doolittleraider.com/ -- includes an image of our high school building as taken during the 'Raid' on 18 Apr 1942 over the Japanese Naval Base at Yokosuka. Although I am NOT an expert in evaluation of aerial photos, comparison of your photograph with other later photos / maps / sketches we have of that area of Yokosuka confirms to me that your photo does in fact include and image of the identical building at the exact location where our school was located in 1971. We call that building the 'Marine Barracks' [building] because it was used as such before it became the 'school'. The alumni involved attended school in that very building in the early 70's and is quite familiar with it and the surrounding area.
Obviously, with new and important information about how our school evolved we want to share it with our alumni; thus I write you to seek permission to download your photo [Original_15.jpg]; and, with appropriate annotation thereon of 'credit' to you and your site, to upload it to my site in the section where we talk about the evolution of the 'Marine Barracks' at http://yohidevils.net/library/kinnick1.htm Of course, 'credit' would be in a form you prefer and I only offer that as a suggestion should you consider my request.
Your photo # Original_12.jpg has interest to us also; however, at the moment we are unable to identify it to the Yokosuka we know due to drastic land mass differences between your photo and what we know. However, we do not know what dredging and filling took place during the war and even for several years after, so it is hard to determine at this time without further study or a wider view of the area.
27 Oct 2006
Great site Todd. Thanks for doing it. You should be proud of your Dad and he of you.
I linked to your site from our photoquiz page where we ask "where is the plaque of Jimmy Doolittle"
Thanks for your efforts
Hi, I was telling a friend about how my mother was a pilot during the 40's and how her cousin's airstrip in Willows, CA was used by Jimmy to test his idea of flying off and landing on an aircraft carrier. I googled Jimmy and got your web site. How I was surprised to see my mother, who has been deceased for almost 30 years in your photo of Jimmy with Gretchen and Jessie Nolta. You see, Dale and Floyd were my mother's cousins and she is on the far right of that picture. Her name at that time was Esther Rees. Another missing name in you photos is of Bill Downs. He was a good friend of Jimmy's and they duck hunted together in Willows along with my father, Everett Stroup, who also was friends with Jimmy. I even have a letter from Jimmy on his letterhead, thanking my father for a fishing rod he sent Jimmy (the three fished together on Bill's 85' converted AVR boat many times).
I would be very proud if you could add my mothers name to that photo.
I was a 2nd classman at the USAF Academy in 1972 when myself and another cadet were sent with the Doolittle Raiders goblets to participate in the '72 Raiders reunion at the Sherton University Hotel in Hollywood. It was a very interesting weekend, but it was especially significant not only because of my opportunity to meet Gen. Doolittle and all the Raiders present there that weekend, but that reunion was the first one after the incident of having that bottle of brandy stolen while it was on display in Vandenberg Hall at the Academy.
Despite our fears, the Raiders and Gen. Doolittle were all totally gracious to us throughout our weekend with them. I know that comes as no surprise to you.
Major, USAF (Ret.)
USAFA, Class of 1973
Dear Mr. Joyce,
Let me introduce myself, I am Major Shannon P. Letteer, U.S.A.F. Auxiliary, Civil Air Patrol. I am 40 years old and live in the Atlanta, GA area. I have spent the past few weeks reading everything I could on the Doolittle Raid. I found your site to be the most informative one I found to date. It compares to one of the good books that you just can't put down. One of my roles in the Civil Air Patrol is Aerospace Education. We travel to schools and civic organizations and talk about the aviation. As you may know, one of C.A.P.'s founders was General Happ Arnold. The reason I am writing to you is that I have been tasked to give a class on our nation's aviation history at the end of Sept. It will be at a three day encampment for our Cadet C.A.P. members. I would like to focus mainly on the Doolittle Raid and the impact it had on the American public and the Japanese, as well as the rest of the world. These Cadets range from 12 to 21 and I see it as an wonderful opportunity to share with them the amazing story of those 80 great men on the flight crews of the 16 B25B's a little over 64 years ago. I would like your permission to use pictures and information from your website for this purpose. No changes will be made to any of the information and you will be given credit as my source. Additionally, any assistance with information or files would be greatly appreciated.
I'm sure I don't need to tell you this but you should be very proud of your father, and I am envious of the opportunities you have had to meet and talk with many of these heroes personally.
Shannon P. Letteer
Major, U.S.A.F. Aux., C.A.P.
Senior Program Officer
Dear Mr. Joyce, I wanted to write and commend your efforts on this fascinating website. I found it to be everything one would want in a website: informative, entertaining, comprehensive, and a wonderful, loving tribute to these brave men. Thank you.
I was prompted to start looking at Raider's sites because I recently discovered that I had a connection to this event. In the years from 1939 to 1943, my father ran a flight school in Stephenville, TX that was part of the Civilian Pilot Training Program at Tarleton College. In looking through some family photos, I found a cache of class photos from the flight school. Among these is a photo of Raider Robert Manning Gray, dated May 21, 1940, who presumably received his flight certification around this date. Bob Gray is in the center of the photo and standing next to him on the right is the the instructor, Burrell Tibbs. Burrell was a colorful Oklahoman aviator who's chief claim to fame was that he taught Wiley Post how to fly. The back of this photo has the student's names in my father's handwriting. I find it fascinating to look at this photo and realize that within the span two years Bob Gray would be part of one of the most famous wartime aviation events in history. I'm sure that many of the young men in these photos also made valiant contributions to the war effort. Please feel free to use these images as you see fit.
Hey, Todd. You have a great website. I don't know if I sent you this info. once or not. My Dad, Col Ole C. Griffith, flew a modified B-25 (called an F-10) for the 6th Air Force in South America. The serial number of his plane was 43-3374. After the war, his plane went to the boneyard at Davis-Monthan AFB in Tucson. It was later taken out, reconfigured as Doolittle's plane, and is now the B-25 on display at the Air Force Museum at Wright-Patterson AFB (where I was born in 1953). I've got all kinds of info on that plane, and my Dad is still alive and very sharp if you'd like to talk to him. We're both huge fans of the Doolittle Raiders. We went to the reunion in Tucson two years ago. I've got lots of pictures of that if you're interested. I also have, according to John Doolittle, the last autograph Jimmy signed before his death. It was obtained from John for Dorothy Mattern (Jimmy Mattern's widow), who gave it to me. I can send you a scan if you like. Hope all this didn't bore you to tears. Take care. I appreciate your Dad's service to our country.
American History Teacher
Cactus High School
LOOKING FOR PUBLIC DOMAIN FOOTAGE OF THE JIMMY DOOLITTLE 30 SECONDS
OVER TOKYO RAID FOR MY PERSONAL USE AND PRODUCTION OF DOCUMENTARY
Toddf, My father RADM Hank Miller was the Naval instructor at Eglin
Field who taught the Raiders about short field take-offs and he was
on board at the launch.
He is also an honorary Raider conferred on him by Gen Doolittle at
their reunion in Alameda 1967.
Your website is very informative. As you know, most of the raiders who
bailed out in China were rescued, hidden and later transferred to
safety by Chinese in the japanese-occupied regions. You may have known
that japanese launched a large scale revenge in those regions.
Historical experts estimated that 1/4 million civilians were
massacred. Japanese even used germ weaponry.
Without their bravery and sacrifice, Doolittle Raid would not be as
successful and glorious. At least there would be no YOU. In this
sense, I believe those civilian victims deserve a bigger recognition
in the history of Doolittle Raid, as well as in your personal website.
I do not know how well President Bush understands the luck of his dad,
who was shot down over Chichi Jima on the bombing mission. If not
rescued by a US navy sub before japanese arrived, the Senior Bush
would have been captured, tortured, beheaded and very likely been
eaten by the japanese imperial soldiers, as the fates of those US
pilot POWs on Chichi Jima turned out to be. Only Mr. Bush senior
became the president of USA, did he have the right to access to the
classified documents telling the true destinies of the "flying boys"
captured by japanese. Surely there would no President Bush. Please
read the book "Flying Boys" or CNN presentation on Bush in the past
year or two.
When dealing with issues on East Asia, Americans should remember that
part of history. Look what are happening in Japan. Japan is tamed on
surface but not in soul. Any misunderstandings of history or
mishandling of the current geopolitical situation in Far East, we will
If we do not want our grandchildren to be made into susies like what
happened to those poor POWs on Chichi Jima, we gotta to overcome the
excessive self-righteousness, selfishness, arrogance and amnesia that
we accumulate everyday.
We just cannot afford similar mistakes in the future.
THE THUNDER OF SILENCE
Thank you for your excellent website. I am requesting permission to use your photos in a PowerPoint presentation which will be seen by class of sixth graders. Your site is the best I have found about the Doolittle Raiders. I will give you and your website all the credit. Thank you for your consideration.
William G. Martin
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My name is Kent Smith, Director of our air show and I am wondering if we can link to your site and possible use some text on our site. We have Dick Cole and Tom Griffin coming and we need some background information.
Our B-25, Miss Mitchell flew over General Doolittle's funeral at Arlington. I was privileged to be there as part of the crew. We also attended the 52nd reunion in Fresno the fallowing year(1994)and I also attended as crew. The plane has since attended other reunions that I couldn't make.
Over the years I have had the opportunity to meet many of the Raiders through my association with the B-25. They certainly are an exemplary group.
Thank You for your consideration.
I am a documentary producer working on a project that includes the Doolittle Raiders in a minor way. The film, Wings Across the Sahara, tells the story behind the Allies most important supply route the Takoradi Route across Africa. The route was made operational due to the efforts of the men of Pan American Airways and was the line that carried the Raiders home.
Your site includes several photos of the Raiders in China. I am curouis as to where you acquired these photos as they would work perfectly in my film.
Any direction is most helpful.
JFS Films, LLC
Hy my name is Philippe, and y come from switzerland, sorry for my bad english, im a member of the jet alpine fighters and wee have one of a three European b25 mitchell. www.jaf.ch
wee have just 3 B25 Mitchell in Europa, two in Austria, and one in Switzerland.
Youre website its fantastic, this is amazing.
My passion is b 25 mitchell, plane, and Doolittle story, and im verry lucky because y flight every3months ith lots of different planes in Switzerland, B25, T28 TROJAN, Superconstellation etc.....
Congratulations and thanks you for your website, and if you commme in Switzerland to Skiing or buy chocolate, send to mee a email for a rendez vous.
I am working on a project to present to our local historical society which
includes a section of Robert Manning Gray. I would like to use a few of the
"Raid Photos" from your site in this project if possible.
The project is being developed on DVD and is non-profit. It is to be used
as a part of a historical driving tour of our city, Killeen Texas.
My name is Mike Carabajal, I work for the Air Force News Agency. In
April we plan to create a web exclusive on the Air Force Web Site
about the Doolittle Raiders. In the past we have selected a topic
each month to be featured as an exclusive. With it we create a
multimedia presentation, and various other products that relate to
that month's feature. After browsing your website I would greatly
appreciate permission to use some content, and images that you have.
You can contact me by either email or phone.
I am personally in charge of this project and am excited to do
something that would honor the event.
I am Hugh Oldham of Anderson SC, an air show narrator and member of the Board of Directors of the South Carolina Aviation Association.
I am currently building (pro bono) a website for the South Carolina Aviation Hall of Fame.
One of the member so this of the SC Aviation Hal of Fame is Sally Crouch, the navigator of your Father's B-25 of the Doolittle Raid.
I have a special affinity for Col. Crouch as he was my high school geometry teacher.
One of those moments you never forget: it was in Mr. Crouch's class room where we first heard that JFK had been shot in Dallas.
To the point, I would like to include the picture labeled April 1st '42 of your Father (I'm assuming), Jay Stork and Lt. Crouch on the Hall of Fame site and link the HoF site to your site for all the outstanding information you have provided.
If you do not wish us to use a family picture I will fully understand.
Thank you for your time and the effort in publishing such an effective and informative website.
My great uncle was Bill Dieter on plane 6 or 7...can't remember which. He was a bombadier. I have a lot of memorabilia...pictures, articles, correspondence between my great-grandmother and Fitzmaurice's mother, a few notes from Doolittle, the little card that comes on funeral flowers that Doolittle sent. I have a book or two by Nielson and Glines.
Very interesting. My grandfather (Bill's brother) passed away almost 2 years ago.
Did you know that Bill tried and tried to get into the Army for a long time, but couldn't for a while because he was so short and he was also color blind? Finally he found a recruiter that would take him. After his stint, he joined up with Doolittle. Turned out, his short stature made the bombadier job a perfect one for him, because of the cramped quarters. Also, being colored blind, he could see past the camouflauge! Interesting stuff!
My name is Scott Collins and I am a sixth grade teacher in Michigan. I am currently teaching a unit to my students on World War II and I always emphasize the importance of the Doolittle Raiders and how they really helped the moral of our country during this trying time. The website that you created "80 Brave Men" is really informative and my class and I enjoyed its content. Thank you for this gift. I was wondering if you might have any updates on status of the surviving members that I may relay to my students because they are very interested in the brave men.
Thanks for emailing me the Doolittle Raider site related to your father Richard Joyce. I have been fascinated with the Raiders since I saw the movie Pearl Harbor in the spring. I've since learned that the details in the movie weren't particularly accurate but the gist of it was. I have talked to about 12 of the Raiders, having called them up to see if they would sign my Doolittle Raiders book or my 60th Reunion program. One declined but all the rest have been very happy to do so. Which brings me to a few questions I would like to ask if you don't mind.
I grew up in Omaha, Nebraska (I live in Wichita, Kansas now), so I was particularly pleased to see that one Raider, Richard Joyce, (I think there was one more) was a Nebraskan. I would really like to get a program from the reunion that was held in Omaha in 1976 (I was 11 so didn't even know about it at the time) so I was wondering if you might happen to have one for sale. Also, I am trying to get as many Raider autographs as I can. Would you happen to have any of your father's floating around? (I was thinking you might have boxes of old cancelled checks or something.) Do you live in Omaha, Lincoln or the vicinity? Do you have any of your father's Doolittle Raider items? If so, is it possible for me to see them next time I am up in Nebraska? (My father lives in Omaha so I get up there a couple of times a year.)
Thanks for leading me to your web sight. it is very impressive and
informative. I teach school and I am going to include the website for
student research purposes
You must be very proud of your father
So are you Todd Joyce?
I actually did run across your site earlier today when I was seeing what resources were on the web about the Doolittle Raiders. Your site was definitely one of the better ones. I read 30 Seconds Over Tokyo when I was in elementary school or junior high & have been interested in those guys & WWI in general for a long time.
I recently quit my job to become a history teacher. I don't think the Doolittle Raid is required knowledge by the state (Virginia), but I certainly plan on teaching it. The current trend in history is to glaze over what the majority of the people were doing & to highlight how women and minority groups suffered. Those are certainly good things to learn about, but I want to make sure that things like the Doolittle raid don't disappear from memory.
I figure the best way to do that is to make it more real for the kids. I'm going to try to collect some of their autographs to show in class. Maybe that will make it more real for them.
Thank you for sharing your memories. Steve Potter (Hanks son) works with us here at Temple, Texas and has been showing many of his father’s mementos also. I first became interested in this raid when my father encouraged me to watch the “30 Seconds over Tokyo” movie in the late ‘50s and have read everything I can get my hands on.
Do you live in Lincoln? I graduated from H.S. in Omaha 1963 the University (PhD) in 1976. A couple of us NU grads are talking about making the trip to Shreveport for the game.
Best of luck to you
Compiling a research paper on the "Raid" and found your page to be
exceptional. What an honor and blessing to be the son of your father. I've
always been a patriot and supporter of the armed forces, even when it's
unpopular. I am a high school social studies teacher in Santa Cruz,
California. I've brought WWII and Vietnam vets into my classroom to speak to
my students. I always enjoy watching the students suddenly realize what the
men have done for them when they relay their war stories.
I wanted to tell you how much I am enjoying your web site.
My Dad was also a Tokyo Raider. His name is Charles Ozuk and he was the navigator on the third plane.
I wanted to ask a question. On one of the pictures you have on your site, I believe i see my Dad. Can you let me know where I could obtain a copy of that picture, or where you got your copies from?
The picture in question is a picture of the USAAF crewmen loading ammunition while en-route to Japan. The number of the Photo is # NH53423.
Any help would be appreciated.
You should be very proud of your father and the other 79 men that were in the Doolittle mission. What they did proved how brave that Americans are and the sacrifices they were willing to make to preserve the freedom that we all take for granted. My father was also in WWII but he didn’t see any action or have any stories to tell me about his time spent in the Navy. I have no knowledge of his military service and because of that I am not feeling very proud. We lost him in 1971 and I regret that I never learned about that part of his life.
I enjoyed your web page very much and I greatly appreciate the information that you have shared with everyone. I saw a special on TV about the Doolittle Raiders and then I decided to research the raid in the Internet. That is how I found your page that you dedicated to your father and the other 79 men. I teach a class of Internet Research and I am always looking for interesting topics for my students. We research a wide variety of topics and WWII is one of them. We have been doing assignments on The Glacier Girl located in Middlesboro, KY. She is a P38 Lightning fighter plane recovered from the ice cap of Greenland in August on 1992 but you probably already know that. The web address of the museum where she is being restored is http://thelostsquadron.com.
I have visited the museum and I enjoyed seeing the plane being restored and the information about the squadron. They are scheduled to fly this plane at Middlesboro on Oct. 26 of this year. I plan to be there to watch this historic flight.
Again many thanks for sharing your proud heritage,
James M. Conley
13293 State Road 350
Moores Hill, IN. 47032
My name is Tim French and I am living in Columbia SC. My profession is an aerial photographer and I did some air-to-air work during the 60th anniversary reunion this past April - shooting the 10 B-25's during the parade.
The event was so successful that I am producing a calendar featuring all
events that took place during the reunion. It will have air and ground shots
bombers, plus photos of the USO dance, parade, the toast and so forth. I will also have photos and by-lines on all of the 23 surviving Raiders at the time
With your permission, I would like to use some photos from your website
with the maps of China that the crews carried along.
Thanks for your support and let me know where I can send you a calendar. I
you will find it very special.
Highwing Images Airborne Photography
p.s. Mr. Crouch's cancer is in remission, I am happy to report.
My name is Adam Hallmark. I had emailed you back in December of last year about information on my relative Lt. Dean Hallmark. A cousin of mine and I run a family website on the Hallmark family. He takes care of the lineage part and I sort of specialize in the families military history (go figure, I was a history major and I'm in the Army). Now that I have some rhythm back in my life (just got to Ft. Hood in Feb.) I am starting to concentrate on the military history in my free time and am trying to get more info on Lt. Hallmark. I understand that Lt. Hallmark's navigator, Lt. Nielson, is still alive (I hope). He was the only person from crew 6 to survive the war and I saw his picture on the 60th Doolittle reunion poster. I was hoping you might have a way I could get in touch with him. I would like to ask him questions about Lt. Hallmark (what was he like, what was his personality like, what did he do for fun, etc) and questions about the plane (nose art, etc), and questions about Lt. Hallmarks relationship with the rest of the crew. I have more but I won't bore you with them. I would hate to bother Mr. Neilson over the phone since he has no idea who I am. Does he have an email address or house address I could write to. A phone number would be a last resort. I am trying to write a paper on Lt. Hallmark for the family quarterly so myths and rumors about him within the family will be put to rest. You wouldn't believe it. People who are more closely related to him than I say that he was awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor posthumously a couple of years ago and that he's buried in Arlington National Cemetery. To the best of my knowledge, this is all completely FALSE! I pride myself on being a historian and knowing the facts and I get a little irritated when "pushy" relatives, who won't let me get a word in edgewise, talk like they know it all when their "facts" are nothing more than tall tales. So as you can see, any help would be very much appreciated.
On another note, my cousin (who happens to be an Army Captain) and I are interested in attending the next Doolittle Raider Reunion. We want to be there, or stand in I guess you could say, for Lt. Hallmark. It would probably be the first time in 60 years any of the original Raiders had even talked to a Lt. Hallmark. But we are very interested in attending. Do you know when the next one is scheduled for? Any info would be helpful.
Thank you for your time.
Adam D. Hallmark
Delta Company, 57th Sig BN
Fort Hood, Texas 76544
Thanks for putting up one of the best websites I've seen on the Doolittle Raiders.
Your selection of Raid Photo's was excellent, but of course I especially enjoyed the information you displayed regarding your Dad.
My current interest in this area has to do with building the Hornet. Actually, I'm an artist with a strong interest in ships. I don't actually model them in a perfectly realistic manner--actually, they tend to look as though they've been underwater a bit. The work, though, is always done with respect for what an important role these vessels and their crews played in American History. The Hornet has fascinated me for a long time, but after last years big Hollywood movie I didn't want to touch it. Now that some time has passed, I'm taking it up again. Before I get to the main work of the ship I've been concentrating on the 16 bombers. I'll try to send you some images of the results. This is a show I currently have in Seattle--you might find it of interest:
Again, nice site. Enjoyed the letters and all the photo's. Best of luck in your endeavors,
GREAT WEB PAGE!!! Please pardon the shouting - I couldn't help it. I've noticed more and more Tokyo raid stuff on the web and yours is among the best. I understand from my mother that Ellen Lawson is doing a book on us kids. That ought to be a kick! Can't remember if we met or not - or at which reunion. Take care and stay in touch.
Doug Radney II
Mr. Joyce, I noticed on your web site that you have a disclaimer that all the photos are your property. I represent the Air Force Lithograph program and we are in the process of designing a historical set for the Centennial of Flight.
The Doolittle Raid is one of the topics we may feature. May I have your permission in advance to use your photos if the flight is selected to be one of the subjects? Please send me any photo credit information you require. If you have any questions or need further information, please don't hesitate to write back. My phone number is (210) 925-1362, we are in San Antonio so we are on Central Daylight Time. Thanks for the assistance.
JANIE W. SANTOS
Chief, Information Products
Air Force News Service
203 Norton St San Antonio TX 78226-1848
I met Maj. Joyce in Atlanta GA, not sure of the date but he was the youngest Major. in the Air force at the time. I believe he was on a War Bond / Morale tour. He spoke to a group of Civitans about the raid. My mother, "Bea" Hasty was secretary to Mr. H.Z. Hopkins who was president of the Civitan Club there and later Civitan International. At the time "Autograph Books" were popular and Maj. Joyce graciously signed mine. The book is now in a fireproof safe in my sons home in Roswell GA.
I hope this E-mail reaches his children, if so and they wish to respond my address is :
Just wanted to let you know that I just found the website about your dad and really enjoyed it. I haven't had the chance to read everything on it yet, but will do so soon. Though I couldn't find it anywhere specifically stated, I take it your dad passed away some time ago. If this is correct, when did he die?
I've been looking for information regarding Richard Joyce for some time, and luckily came upon your site. There are two reasons for my interest. Firstly, my dad was an Air Force pilot, so I have a strong interest in military aviation. I think you can understand the second reason for my interest when you see my name!
Hope to hear from you soon.
Mark Joyce (No relation to my knowledge!)
I contacted your brother from an address I got from the Raiders Reunion website. He gave me your website address and I would like to thank you for one of the best websites I have seen.
I live in Columbia, South Carolina where the 2002 reunion was held but I was unable to get to thank any of the remaining Raiders for their service to our country. I have searching the guest books and finding some email address for some of them and have already spent several hours trying to send thanks e-mails to all those I can find.
I have really been bitten by my interest in the Doolittle Raiders and am having a lot of fun researching the group and their actions. It brings tears to my eyes to be able to exchange emails from some of the guys who were our history and participated in the events that will be remembered forever. I have exchanged e-mail with one guy who flew support off of one of the other carriers when the Raiders launched off the Hornet. He also flew in the Battle of Midway. That is so exciting to be able to hear stuff first hand. It is like a dream to be able to do that.
I came across one entry from a retired Air Force guy that said he was born and raised in Columbia and Sally Crouch was one of his teachers. I will try to find his e-mail address and make sure he sees your website because of the references to Mr. Crouch in your "Dad's Story" section of your website.
Columbia, South Carolina
Dear Mr. Joyce,
Thank you so much for the wonderful page you created in honor of your father. I look forward to sharing his story with my 5th grade students! Columbia was the training site for the Raiders and we are very proud to be hosting their 60th Reunion this week. I have taken the day off tomorrow so that I can attend the parade and visit the Memorabilia exhibit. My family and I will attend the air show Saturday at Owens Field.
My students will begin a study of WWII in 2 weeks and I am working with a small group of kids on a web project about the Raiders. They will attempt to tell the story of the Raiders through the eyes of a child. I am hoping that this will become a valuable online resource for future use by elementary aged children as I have had great difficulty in locating WWII resources that are "child friendly."
With your permission, we would like to create a link on our page to your site. In addition, we would love to have your permission to use the Raider emblem background for our page.
I hope that you will be able to join us in Columbia this week. Perhaps my students or I will get the chance to meet you at one of the events and thank you personally not only for the historical record you created, but also for your father's bravery in our Nation's hour of need.
Susan Landrum McCarthy
Instructional Technology Specialist
Nelson Elementary School
225 N. Brickyard Rd.
Columbia, SC 29223
You will not grow up to be what you want to be. You will grow up to be what you work to be.
Dear Mr. Joyce,
I have seen it mentioned in a couple of articles, that the B-25's on the Tokyo Raid were re-painted in Sacramento just before they left for the mission. I was wondering if you knew this to be true or not.
Impressive site. I am grateful for and proud of what your father and the other raiders, soldiers, etc. did. Your tribute honors you both.
my father was one of the men who helped turn the army air corps over to the
air force. he was an aide to Gen Arnold, and as a very young man i met Gen
Doolittle..later my father told of stories and one of the most interesting
was of the raiders. I have read many books, saw documentaries and listen to
my uncle who was a B17 pilot during the war and his meetings with raiders and
his personal knowledge of certain events...my interest is that of the
raiders since the raid..i was wonderin if their was something or somewhere i
could go to find out the disposition of their whereabouts, events and dates
of their deaths..i would appreciate your help in any way..thank u..your web
site was very interestin and informative..
my e-mail is firstname.lastname@example.org..or mailin address is PO Box 7942,
lawton, OK 73506
thank u for your time.
Charles L Guardalibene
This is a wonderful web site. Thanks for creating this for us American history buffs. It's also very helpful for my children who have been taught to "remember Pearl Harbor" but weren't quite sure why.
I appreciate your dad's willingness to go on that dangerous mission. I know you are proud of him. I have watched "30 Seconds over Tokyo" many times. As well as the story in the recent movie "Pearl Harbor". I hadn't heard the story about your dad bailing out and flicking a cigarette but and realizing he was high up on the mountain. That is interesting. I would love to hear more about what your dad had to say about his experiences in WW2.
My dad was a army infantry man in the D day invasion. I grew up listening to his war stories. I too am proud of my dad's courage and dedication.
My question for you is this......Do you have a list of the men who flew on that mission? I have a signed picture of a B-25B flying low over Japan. It is hard to make out the name but it looks like BS Carlin.
I appreciate your reply
--- gary baxley
I just recently visited the "Nimitz" Pacific War museum in Fredericksburg Texas and was pleased to see a restored B-25 there along with mementos and accounts of the raid on display. I felt this museum was the best I had ever seen about the Pacific War and would highly recommend it to anyone interested in this history. I am always in search of museums which depict history accurately, I believe this one does just that. I am retired Air Force and Gen Doolittle and his crew are real heroes in my book.
Msgt. U.S.A.F. Retired
Hoping you can help me. I'm framing a print of the Raiders taking off of the Hornet. It's a rather old print and has most all of their signatures and was looking for a Raider's emblem patch like you have on your web site. Do you know where or how I can get one to frame with my print? I've looked all over and have found each individual wing's patch but I would rather use this one instead. Thanks for your time and GREAT web site,
I just wanted to say that I knew very little about Jimmy Doolittle's raid on Tokyo until I watched the movie Pearl Harbor. That prompted my interest to read more on it, and after visiting your web site I was quite moved. Just wanted to let you know that here is another American that honors your father and the other brave men who conducted this raid.
Good website and honors to your dad. I have a question about the men taken prisoner by the Japanese. Some, I have read, were held at Sugamo prison in Tokyo. Would you know where I can find out how many men where held at this prison and what were their fates. Thank you for any information.
Respect to your dad,
My name is Gladys Reed and I'm doing research on the raid. I live in the Columbia, SC area and I'm going to do a 1/6th scale diorama of a portion of the USS Hornet flight deck with Raiders and Navy personnel getting ready for the raid. I hope to have this done by the reunion in April. I want to copy some of the pictures from your web page for use in helping me to faithfully recreate that time. I'd also like to request pictures (color if you have them) of the uniform the pilots and crew wore and a picture of the patches on their leather jackets. Thanks in advance for any help you could give me.
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To check out some cool pics
Enjoyed your web site very much.
The pictures of the Yokosuka Naval Base were taken by my father Clayton J. Campbell who was navigator on Plane #13. He used Edgar McElroy's camera since Mac was busy flying the plane. These are the only pictures taken during the Raid that survived. Mac took the picture of the men under the Chinese umbrellas. My dad is at the left. He is tall and not covered by an umbrella.
I found your web site while looking for the official site which wouldn't open up for me today. Tom Casey runs that site from Florida. He is an honorary Raider.
I enjoyed reading about the Doolittle museum in Nebraska. I was in Nebraska in 2000, just a little too soon. My daughter married a Nebraska boy and they had a reception there after their wedding here in eastern Washington state.
The next Raider reunion will be in S. Carolina in April. I might go with my folks but they are getting just too frail to travel and often change their minds when the time comes. So we will see. I would like to meet Sally Crouch in S. C. I went to a reunion thirty years ago in LA but didn't meet too many folks then. I have corresponded with some in more recent years.
Thanks for putting together such a nice web site on the Doolittle Raid.
Your father and the men who served with him are heroes. Our country and all who live here are forever grateful for what they did for our country. We are a free country only through the sacrifices of heroes like your father.
A tremendous web page indeed, and your father is an authentic American hero. I wish I could attend the reunion in April.
You might want to check out and link to my small contribution to WW2 history at the web page below. It's a day-by-day history of the war. Comments and criticism are welcome.
David H. Lippman, MFA 2001
"My intensity is intense." -- Roger Clemens.
Check out my small contribution to World War II history at: http://www.usswashington.com/dl_index.htm
I'm a 42 year one male who once build a B-25 model in my youth as well as a Hornet model too! I have visited your web site and I was thrilled to see all the information it contained. Thank you for taking the time to put it together so the facts of the Doolittle Raid will be passed to the next generation.
I have a few questions that I've always wanted to get answered about the raid.
1. What happened to York's plane, the one that landed intact in Russia? I would think it has some great historical significance!
2. Does any wreckage of the other planes exist?
3. I read a book by Ted Larsen about the raid. Both the first and the third printing which was interesting because of the war time censorship apparent in the first book. Some questions:
a. What happened to Larsen after the war? He was severely injured.
b. I believe his book was the first one about about the raid. Naturally I would think that he would be "front and center" at the reunions, but I never see any mention of him. Was he disliked by the other raiders?
4. Your site is the best one I've found on the web. Why don't the remaining Raiders put together an "official" site that would live far beyond their lifetimes? A compilation of all the stories.
Thanks for listening!
Thank you for the information! I think your site should BE the official site and collection point for all the raiders stuff!
P.S. Can you imagine the historical significance if York's plane was found intact?
I visited your site.
What it must have been to take off of a carrier knowing he can't return. Your father is quiet a man.. People seem to have been made differently back hen.
I just purchased a picture Taylor picture and am now trying to buy a Doolittle autograph to frame with my picture.. I am at work so I cannot see my picture, was your father was one of those who signed my picture.
Las Vegas, NV
Thanks for the website. Really neat. I'll review it in depth as I have added it to my 'favorites'. The very first book I ever read from cover-to-cover in 1954 was "Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo" by Bob Considine & Ted Lawson. Kept it until about 2 years ago when I donated it to a school in Iowa. A teacher there had his class do a study on the Tuskegee Airmen & they (the class) produced a very fine manuscript of which I purchased 3 copies. These kids really got into the project & dedicated a lot of time to it. The teacher is to be commended as he provided the catalyst for his students to reach beyond the ordinary.
John Hallberg (Technical Dynamics - The Fine Art Aero Space Co.)
That's a real nice website. Being a history major, World War II has been a fascinating subject to me. My grandfather was stationed on the USS. Hornet for a very brief time, unfortunately, I do not know the exact dates. Last year, I was able to see Doolittle's final resting place at Arlington cemetery. I am actually fascinated by all wars this great nation has fought, my grandfather fought WWII, along with my great uncle who was killed in D-Day, another great uncle was in Korea, and my father was a field medic in Vietnam, he has many stories, he was at the worst place during the worse time. Thanks again for showing me your site, I have saved it as a favorite. I am glad to see history remembered.
I found your web site to be very interesting. You have done a very good job! I was particularly interested in the goblets at the AF academy. I have been to the Academy on a number of occasions but was not aware of the goblets. Thanks again for letting me know about the site. We all can learn a lot from our parents. My father was a bombardier during WW II and was dropping bombs on Italy when I was born. The stories they have to tell are fascinating! I think that many times we forget that many of these pilots, like my father and I am sure yours also, were really only kids when they were fighting.
Thanks again, Walter Burks
I had the good fortune to see one of the last ceremonies they had at the Presidio of Monterey with General Doolittle in attendance. It was the one when they awarded Prisoner of War medals to the surviving Raiders who had been captured. The General was too unsteady to pin the medals on, so Jimmy Stewart did it for him. Amazing!
We are four 8th grade students from Shorecliffs Middle School in California. We are currently working on a National History Day Project. We chose "The Doolittle Raid" as our topic. We have already contacted and interviewed one remaining raider over the phone. His information was very useful. We still are always eager for more information. Maybe you could supply us with some. We are putting all of our information and photos into a movie presentation which we are editing through the computer. Once we are done it will go onto a VHS tape which we will submit as an entry to National History Day on January 28, 2002. Thank you for your time!
Laila van der Meulen,
Hey Todd -- I enjoyed visiting your web site -- Thanks!
Question: Do you know of any books covering the attack
on Pearl Harbor, that also provide details of the Doolittle Raid?
To whom it may concern,
Thanks for all your work on the Doolittle raid,
including Dean Hallmark -- my relative. He is an
inspiration to us all.
God Bless -
Everyone who was on this raid and there Families.
From a grateful Canadian
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year
I just wanted to drop you a note saying thanks for a nice website. I did a search for info on the subject after watching Pearl Harbor tonight on a DVD. I knew that the movie was a lot of "hoolywood" and wanted to get some real facts on the raid.
I didn’t even know we ever hit Japan in WW2 outside of the fact when we dropped the big bombs.
You should be real proud of your father, lots of guts.
I have to go now, I have a little reading to do.
I was on the net looking at the Doolittle Raiders. Noticed your site. No place to write but here. Hope this gets to the right person. the Daughter or son of Richard O. Joyce? I have a dear friend, William L. Birch that was # 11 of the Doolittle Raiders. I am so thankful for these men and so honored to have known one personally. I grew up in California and he and his wife were my neighbors. Not one time did he ever brag about his part in this. It has just been a few months now that I even knew about his involvement. I am 53 and was a small child when I was living by them. They were like parents to me. I still have contact with them and love them dearly. Never knew I knew a celebrity!
Thanks for your time and if you would like to write back, I would be honored.
Thank you for introducing me to your sight. It was one I had not had the
pleasure of stumbling upon. Your dad and the rest of the men have always been
my personnel heroes. Most of my collection that is not for sale is based on
the Doolittle Raiders & Mission. If you ever want to trade let me know as I
have a very extensive collection of Raider material. I donated an entire 300
item exhibit to the San Diego Aero Space Museum. I'll send some pictures if
you wish. Thanks again...........
Irv K. Scheib
I just visited your web site after I watched the movie, "Pearl Harbor". I
was wondering if you have seen it and if it is close to the real thing. My
Dad knows a lot about WW II, but I must admit that I don't. I'm 43 years
old and am just know beginning to read about it. Your Dad must have seen a
lot. It's people like him that has made America what it is today.
I enjoyed your web site and will let my Dad know about it.
I was wondering if you could tell me of a site that
has pictures of LT Hallmark. Do you perhaps know what
medals and/or citations he received during his service
and as a result of the Tokyo Raid? I am a descendant
of LT Hallmark and would like to know this information
if at possible. Thank you for your time.
United States Army
As usual, being the history freak that I am, right after I watched the "fluffy" Pearl Harbor movie this afternoon, I flicked onto the web to re-acquaint myself with some details about Doolittle's raid, and came across your site.
Think its great the work and effort you have put into it, to keep the memory of our fathers alive for what they did in WW2. My ma's baby brother survived Pearl Harbor, he had just turned 18 a month earlier. Now, he is the last uncle I have left alive. My dad did the Navy thing in the South Pacific, another young uncle at the time, (22) was a Sergeant Major in the Marines. I remember after I was in the Army I noticed a pic of him and my dad together in their uniforms, and asked him how the hell did he make it that high in rank at such a young age. All he said was, "Marines in the Pacific had a lot of rank openings during the war." After he passed a couple of years ago, his son found out he had been at Iwo Jima & Okinawa, my aunt didn't even know that. He refused to speak about it right to his sudden passing in '99.
Anywho, I hope you keep your site running, I been working on one of my dad and uncles, if I ever get the pic scanning done, and we get the rest of my uncles info from Washington/St. Louis. So many of our fathers are now gone, with many more passing every day. Its good you keep his memory alive, along with the exploits that he participated in. I think that raid was the closest thing to a Kamikaze mission we ever pulled off, and ultimately with little loss of life. Considering the circumstances, it was nothing short of a miracle. Did you father and his buddies like Jack Daniels?????? hehehehe
I could never envision having the bravery or shutzpah to volunteer for anything like that.....well, I never did until 9/11. By that afternoon, my fervent wish was to retrain as a bombardier on a stealth bomber. :^) I talked to an woman my dad used to date before my folks got married in 1938, she stayed one of my folks best friends, the day after 9/11. She couldn't believe my feelings, knowing I've always been something of a dove. She related that know I knew how the whole country felt after December 7th in 1941. I asked her for a comparison....she said there is none. Her anger is tenfold what it was 60 years ago.
I've got you bookmarked......Ill check in every once in a while to see if you've added to it. THANKS for the memories......good ones at that,
I enjoyed your web-page about your Dad's exploits with Doolittle. On another web-site , it stated "Doolittle wanted the crews to come from the 17th Bombardment Group and the 89th Recon Squadron who were then based in Oregon.". My question is, were all these pilots trained bomber pilots, or were any of them fighter pilots ? Was the 89th Recon Squadron, a bomber squadron ? Hope you can let me know.
Stony Plain, Alberta Canada
Hello - I was interested to find out the "real" story of the Raid as I had watched Pearl Harbor over the weekend and always want to know the truth. I was born in 1943 but hear about the war from Mother and watch the History Channel often. Thank you for telling your Dad's story and the story of the raid. Happy Holidays.
I want to simply say that your father is a true hero. I had heard/learned about the raid but it was a vague memory. I watched 'pearl harbor' last night with my two teenage sons. It caused me to look up information this morning to learn more and I found your site. I will tell my sons more of the details today.
Your site is a historical treasure, I'm thankful for it and men like your father. Have a nice holiday.
AS YOU KNOW TODAY IS DECEMBER 7TH. I JUST FINISHED WATCHING PEARL HARBOR WITH MY SON.
I'M SURE YOU KNOW THAT AFTER THE RAIDERS HIT TOKYO OUR STOCK MARKET BEGAN TO RALLY AND SO DID THE REST OF OUR COUNTRY. YOUR DAD IS A HERO AND SO ARE THE REST OF THE MEN. VERY BRAVE INDEED.
I am trying to get to see all aerial photos taken during Doolittle's raid on naval bases in Japan, particularly of ships lying in harbor. I am anxious to identify any ships that were not Japanese. Any ideas where I might look?
Sub Ocean Surveys.
Just checked into your web site about the Doolittle Raid and your Dad. I really didn't know much about the raid until I had a college roommate from Bowie TX by the name of Kenneth E. Reddy. He told me that he was his uncle's namesake who never had any children. When I inquired as to the reason he never had his own kids, my roommate explained that his uncle had been in the Doolittle raid over Tokyo, and sure enough, I've seen footage of the roll call the men had at every reunion, and they called out Reddy's name, and someone answered for him.
He was the Co-pilot of take-off plane 11, they went down in China. He survived the raid, got back to the United States and was killed, if I remember correctly, somewhere in Alabama. When I asked what were the circumstances, he told me that his uncle was on a campaign going from theater to movie theater raising money by selling War Bonds, and their plane crashed as they made their way to the next town.
The irony of his demise has been a compelling memory to me.
I think you could enhance the quality of your site by providing a way for other relatives to tell the story of their own who participated in this heroic effort, Providing a place for their stories and photos, and cross links between the participants names, you could achieve a world class World War II memorial to these brave men of the USAAF.
My Dad never went to War, but was a teacher of pilots at the cadet training center at Lackland AAFB in San Antonio Texas. He was the chair of the math and physics department, and used math and physics to teach astral navigation and wrote a training manual on same. I still have a copy, along with a number of cut-away artificial horizons and turn and bank indicators, and other instruments, which my father used to teach the students that despite what they thought they were experiencing, the instruments were to be relied up, because of the immutable laws of physics. So, though he never flew a plane or fought in combat, he was, in a strange way, responsible for getting a lot of young pilots home.
Congratulations on a moving experience.
Alton K. Briggs
I was looking at your web site and was wondering if you know if Travis Hoover is still alive? He is a relative of a friend of my mothers, but I can never get anything out of her in the way of information because she is 81 years old and she can't seem to remember anything.
Hi, My name is Sue Hoffman. I am the oldest granddaughter of Lt. Col. Harry C. McCool who was the navigator on plane #4 in the Doolittle Raid. The stories I've heard from him as well as others are fabulous. I'm so glad my grandfather is still alive and able to relay some of his memories of what happened. Please let me know where I can get some memorabilia and/or books about the Raid.
Hi, I'm Nicole and I'm using you website as a source for a research paper I'm
doing in my tenth grade English class. Is that alright with you? Sorry if it
isn't. I'm crediting everything to you, and if you want, I can email you a
copy of the paper after it is typed. Sorry to bother you.
I did my research paper on the website on the Doolittle Raid. I'm so
interested in that and your site was a lot of help. When I get it all typed
up I'll send it right over, thank you so much.
Doolittle Raid: Aftermath of Pearl Harbor
an “I-Search” Research Paper
The Doolittle Raid. Never heard of it? I hadn’t either until I saw the movie “Pearl Harbor,” and even then, I thought it was not true, but rather, an attack created in the minds of Hollywood writers. It’s not. As I later discovered by reading more about the event of Pearl Harbor, the Doolittle Raid is far from made up. I was shocked, but excited, and I immediately wanted to look more into the raid. That’s when I decided to use it as the topic for this project.
I started looking up information on the raid online and in a book I had gotten on the movie “Pearl Harbor.” I found only a few really good sites that filled the need for the project, four in particular, and I looked further into them. Once I had obtained all of the information needed from my sources, I took notes down, and found out so much more than I had known before.
The Doolittle Raid was thought up in Washington D.C. by a man named Admiral Ernest J. King, according to Tim Lanzendorfer (p. 1). President Roosevelt was in charge of the U.S.A. at the time, and after careful planning and consideration, the raid was conceived and a course of action began to take place to prepare for the attack. Col. James H. Doolittle was chosen to lead the raid, and recruited men to assist him. :Once the crew of 124 fliers were assembled, Doolittle told them, ‘My name’s Doolittle. I’ve been put in charge the the project you men have volunteered for. It’s a tough one, and it will be the most dangerous thing any one of you have ever done. Anyone can drop out and nothing will ever be said about it.’ No one took up his offer.” (Pearl Harbor Movie Tribute, 76).
“Six days later [April 14, 1942],” states http://www.cv6.net/1942/doolittle/doolittle.htm, “Enterprise’s sister ship Hornet had sailed from San Francisco.” They were headed for Tokyo with 16 B-25 and Doolittle’s crew on board. The plan for the volunteers was easy enough to understand, but hard to carry out. After bombing their assigned targets in Tokyo, they were not to return to the carriers (which had left already anyway), but rather, fly to safe China.
“At 7:38 AM, Hornet lookouts spotted the masts of another Japanese Picket,” states http://www.cv6.net/1942/doolittle/doolittle.htm(2).
Doolittle feared that the picket had reported the carrier to Japan, and they were forced to leave earlier than planned. According to http://members.home.net/doolittleraider/, all B-25’s took off the carriers and bombed their targets. “All of the planes except one either crashed or bailed out,” they also state, and according to http:// www.cv6.net/1942/doolittle/doolittle.htm, most of the 80 pilots and crew members survived the mission, including Doolittle.
The mission was very risky to all of these men. Having the courage to volunteer for something they knew nothing about, and then not turning away after being warned of danger is a victory all in itself, in my opinion. I learned a lot reading about these men, and have developed a respect for them.
I’ve heard people say that Pearl Harbor was the beginning of World War II for the United States, and the Doolittle Raid was our way of showing no fear and no mercy. I don’t think success in this mission was that much of an issue to these men. They wanted and needed to show the Japanese that the United States was capable of retaliating and that we are not afraid.
In my opinion, this raid was our way of showing our might, and the fact that they triumphed over obstacles placed in their way, makes it even better. They overcame the fact that a Japanese boat had discovered them in the process of the raid, and that they only had 16 planes to bomb with when the Japanese had hundreds at Pearl Harbor. Irrelevantly, I’ve seen the movie Pearl Harbor five times, and a quote that stuck in my head was one that the actor playing Col. Doolittle said. “This attack may be only a pinprick, but it’s straight through their hearts.” I think that statement is entirely true, and I really look up to these men who were in the raid. I’m glad I researched this as my topic, and I defiantly would recommend it to anyone.
Thank you for what is not only a wonderful tribute to your father and all
who flew with him, but what is a simply fabulous information source.
History was always my weakest subject but I heard a reference to "Doolittle
flying over Tokyo" somewhere amid the recent events. Could have been on FOX
news or G Gordon Liddy, or maybe it was in President Bush's speech before
congress. I don't remember where but anyway it piqued my curiosity and I
just put Doolittle + Tokyo in a search engine and was just thrill to find all
of this wonderful information on your web site. Thank you for all you have
put into this. I'm going to save a copy for next year when my kid takes
My name is Shane Rosenthal and I recently discovered that I am the grandson of Lt. William N. Fitzhugh, co-pilot of plane #2. My family has no information on him and was hoping that you might have information about him or how I could obtain more information about him. Any information you could give would be most helpful.
Hello. My name is Lisa and I have a story to share with you that will require your assistance.
I am the proud mother to Jared whom will turn 4 years old in August.
Starting around 2 years old Jared became obsessed with World War II aircraft.
My son can identify almost all W.W.II aircraft, although his favorite is the
We live outside of Houston, Texas and to the best of my recollection his interest started when I took him to the Lone Star Flight Museum in Galveston.
When must kids were playing at the park, my son had to spend his weekends (every
weekend) at the Flight Museum. Jared's interest reached the obsessed level after his trip to "Wings Over Houston" where he experienced the tribute to Pearl Harbor. He was 2 at the time.
Anyway, after the "Wings Over Houston" Pearl Harbor enactment he watched "Tora, Tora, Tora," this launched him into the addicted state. Seriously, the only place I could find the movie was our local library, we checked it out every weekend for 9 weeks. The Liberians thought it was precious, no lie, if I've seen that movie once I've seen it 1500 times. We now own it. Next came
"Midway" and recently I allowed him to watch the movie "Pearl Harbor." Well,
was a big mistake on my part! Jared now focuses on "The Doolittle Raid."
Todd believe me I have down played my son's fixation. To be so young and knowledgeable about military and aviation history, is in my opinion, strange.
Currently, I am redecorating Jared's room. You've probably guessed by now
our theme will be W.W.II PILOTS! Here's where you come in. On your website
you showed beautiful art work, I attempted to copy these as well as the "Raider Emblem" unfortunately with no success.
Would you consider emailing me copies? My intent would be to print them for the sole purpose of making a wall collage. They are BEAUTIFUL!
Thanks for your time. Your website was incredible.
I enjoyed your web site very much. Thank you for helping to keep the memory of such gallant men alive. I was 4 years old when the strike on Japan occurred by Doolittle's Raiders. My older sister's husband, Jacob Emmens, was on the Hornet when your father and the other Raiders took off on their mission. The Hornet was later sunk and my brother-in-law was transferred to the Wasp. He spent the rest of the war in the Pacific and received three purple hearts. I remember seeing the movie Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo when I was very young and then later a few times more. I even had the book until recently when I passed it on to my son.
"Jake", my brother-in-law, never liked to talk about the war but a few times, he did open up to me and my friend Gene after bowling and a few beers.
Suffice to say, he saw a lot of action and one of his fonder memories was watching Doolittle's Raiders take off his ship to bomb the Japanese homeland. It was not only uplifting to the folks back home but was inspiring to the troops fighting in the Pacific.
Wm. H. D. "Doug" Taylor
Dear Mr. Joyce,
You have a wonderful website! It's rare to find one so well-designed, organized, informative and visually appealing. Congratulations on a job well done!
I am a B-1 pilot in the Air Force. From 1998 through 2002 I was assigned to the 34th Bomb Squadron at Mt Home AFB, ID. As you can imagine, the story of the Doolittle Raiders was a very important part of our heritage. Every year, we honored the memory of your father and the other Raiders with a "Doolittle Hangar Fly" meeting, on or near the anniversary of the Raid.
When I was there, I was the flyer who assumed the responsibility for re-telling the story of the Raid to our squadron and guests, and I always considered it a high privilege to be the designated keeper of the Doolittle flame.
I have never been able to attend one of the Reunions, though I've always wanted to. If you're going to this year's reunion and think the surviving Raiders might be interested in following story, could you please relate it to them:
The only two of the four Doolittle squadrons still actively flying bombers are the 34th and the 37th, both of which fly the B-1. In response to the terror attacks of September 11th, the President deployed the 34th, which was augmented by several crews from the 37th. On October 7th, 2001, the Thunderbirds and Tigers entered combat together for the first time since April 18, 1942, when we delivered the opening blows against the Taliban and Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan. I would never compare our mission to the Tokyo strike, but as a pilot on one of the first American planes to enter Afghani airspace, I was struck by the irony of our two squadrons, joined together once again to avenge a devastating surprise attack against our nation. The 34th deployed again last year, and was the lead B-1 squadron for Operation IRAQI FREEDOM.
I just thought they'd like to know that their heritage of service still lives in today's Air Force. I always believed this was their most important gift to us. For this, and for many other things, we are and forever will be in their debt.
Michael Bob "Munsen" Starr, Maj
CENTAF Commander's Action Group
I just wanted to say thank you for providing such a wonderful site.
Also, I hope that you would pass along a simple message to these extra special men. The message is very simple. THANK YOU.
My name is Jeff Griffith. I have been an American History teacher in Arizona for 27 years. Jimmy Doolittle has always been one of my 3 heroes (Joe Foss and my father are the other two). During WWII, Dad flew a modified B-25 (F-10) in South America. The plane, #3374, is the one that is now on display in the Air Force Museum in Dayton, Ohio, reconfigured as Doolittle's aircraft. I never had the opportunity to meet General Doolittle, but I do have the last autograph he signed. It was obtained for me by Dorothy Mattern (widow of Jimmy Mattern), who wrote to John Doolittle and asked him to have his Dad sign something for me. It's on a reunion badge with a B-25 on it. I believe John wrote "To Jeff Griffith, with every good wish," and then Jimmy signed it in very shaky handwriting, "J.H. Doolittle." At Jimmy's funeral, John told Dorothy that it was the last autograph Jimmy signed. My Dad and I are planning to drive to Tucson in April for the 62nd reunion. Dad was stationed at Wright-Patterson and in the Pentagon with C.V. Glines, who will also be at the reunion. Thank you for the wonderful website you created. Your Dad and all the Doolittle raiders are true American heroes. I make sure that my students know about them. Best wishes. Jeff Griffith/American History Teacher/Cactus High School/ Glendale, Arizona
Hello, I would just like to tell you that I really appreciate what your father did, even though this may not mean much to you. I am 15 years old, and live in College Station, TX. I just want to say that I think it is really good what you are doing, and keep up the good work. A man like your father, and the other 79 men will NEVER be forgotten, and they will be remembered as heroes in ours hearts, and Inspirers in our minds. Your father, and the other 79 men, including Doolittle have taught us people today how much we take for granted, even as young of age as me, I have learned it well, because I have great respect for veterans. WELL, KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!!
Thanks, Marty Malinak
In the interest of historical accuracy you should change your web page reference to Doolittle's 1932 World speed record from 252,686 mph (which was his winning speed in the Thompson Trophy race) to the correct 296.287 mph.
This beat the 1924 record of 278.457 mph held by France's Florentin Bonnet.
The record set by Doolittle in the R-1 was broken the very next year by Jimmy Weddell in his Model 44 at 304.522 mph. In 1932 the absolute speed record was at 407.494 mph set 29 September 1931 by George Stainforth flying a Supermarine S.6B. The International Aeronautical Federation was allowing separate records for land and sea planes in 1932.
I would also dispute your writing that Doolittle was "saying it was the most dangerous airplane he ever flew" after flying the Gee Bee R-1 in 1932.
This was something which appeared 59 years later in his 1991 autobiography, when Jimmy Doolittle was 90 years old. He must have forgotten how his own "Doolittle 400" racer disintegrated around him on its first flight as he made a high speed pass at 300 mph and only 100 feet off the ground. He must have also forgotten the Laird Super Solution he flew in the 1931 Thompson trophy race. Its upper wing spar was built in two pieces and the joint weakened to the point that the plane could not get out of left bank at all.
Actually in 1932 he was much kinder to the Gee Bee and the Granville Brothers. Before the qualifying trials, the Cleveland papers quoted Doolittle as saying: "She's got plenty of stuff. I gave her the gun for just a few seconds and she hit 260 like a bullet, without any chance for momentum and without diving for speed and she had plenty of reserve miles in her when I shut her down."
After the qualifying trials, and a new speed record had been set, the press quoted him as saying: "I could have shoved the ship up to five miles an hour faster but I didn't let it out to the full extent. It was made for Russell Boardman who has his heart set on making the world's record and he can give the ship all its got after he recovers from his accident."
Back at Springfield, Jimmy Doolittle had high praise for the ship and the men who built her. Here are some quotes as printed in the Springfield, MA papers.
The Springfield Union of September 6, 1932 quoted Doolittle as saying, "She is the sweetest ship I've ever flown. She is perfect in every respect and the motor is just as good as it was a week ago. It never missed a beat and has lots of stuff in it yet. I think this proves that the Granville brothers up in Springfield build the very best speed ships in America today."
The Union of September 10 said Jimmy Doolittle flew in yesterday from Cleveland in the R-11, rolled it into the hangar at Bowles airport, patted the fuselage, and said, "Gee Bee's are mighty fine ships."
Another Springfield paper of the same date quoted Doolittle as saying, "The ship performed admirably. She was so fast that there was no need of my taking sharp turns although if the competition had been stiffer I would have. I just hope Russell Boardman can take her out soon and bring her in for a new record. There were lots of things we might have adjusted more properly if we had had time to run tests with the ship, and they would have meant more speed. I am sure Russell Boardman can take her around at quite a bit more than 300 miles an hour so you see my record may not last long after all."
A letter dated September 7, 1932, on Shell Petroleum stationary and addressed to Granville Brothers Aircraft reads as follows:
Just a note to tell you that the big G. B. functioned perfectly in both the Thompson Trophy and the Shell Speed Dash.
With sincere best wishes for your continued success, I am as ever.
Pete Miller still had this original letter.